Labyrinth of Touhou Tri -The Dreaming Girls & The Mysterious Orbs-

DRPGだと思って買ったらパズルゲーでした お金返して・・・

RPGってよりパズルゲー マップのギミックはいいんだけど、ギミック解除したと思ったらマップ出直すとまた最初から キャラクターが多くて、スキルツリー形式だけどメッチャ見にくいし UIとかが最悪。新しいエフェクトとか色々技術的なとこ新しく取り入れてるのが見えるけど、重いし見えにくい ２は面白かったよ ３は２のDLC込みで最高難易度で、楽しくプレイできる人にはお勧めかな？

[h2]この評価は万人に対してであって、[b]以下のプレイヤーにはオススメ[/b]します。[/h2] [list] [*]キレそうになるくらい複雑怪奇なダンジョン構造が好きな人。 [*]キレそうになるくらい面倒なパズルが好きな人。 [*]キレそうになるくらい理解不能な敵とのバトルが好きな人。 [*]出てくる東方キャラが好きな人。 [/list] ……4つの内3つがおかしい？　そういうゲームです。 [h3]個人的には好きですが、万人向けかというと、うーん……なので、どうしてもこういう形に。[/h3] [h3]ダンジョン構造[/h3] 序盤から「ワープポイント付き隠し通路」などが登場するものの、まだ大した事はないです。 中盤から登場する直進しか出来ない「滑る床」がクセモノ。とにかく多い。世界最多クラス。 多くの十字路に仕掛けられていて、まともに曲がる事が出来ないフロアも多く、非常に厄介。 また、乗ると移動する床、一直線に穴も超えてぶつかるまで移動する床など、移動が簡単にいかないフロアが大半を占めています。 特に乗ると移動する床は「その床を動かして止めてから、フロアをぐるっと回って別の場所から別の床を動かしてきてそこまで持ってくる事でさらにその先へ進める」ような嫌らしい構造のフロアも多々あります。 [h3]パズル[/h3] 正確には倉庫番。押す事だけ出来るブロックを上手く動かして道を作るというもの。 正直、そこまで理解不能なものはないです。 ……ただ、解法を見つけても実行するのがとにかく面倒。グルグル回って押して……を何度も繰り返すなど、非常に面倒。 ちょっとでも間違えると戻せなくなり、最初からやり直しとなるところが多いのも厄介。 [h3]バトル[/h3] 正直、雑魚戦は大した事ないです。ボスが問題。 普通に倒しづらいだけなら育成するなりなんなりで難易度を下げられるのですが…… レベル制限や装備制限などの強力な制限が科せられ「過剰な育成」を無効化させられた上で最高難易度のボス戦をやらなければ「仲間が揃わない」、「今回の主人公キャラ（のはず）のスキルがまったく増えない」といった要素が普通にあり、難易度を下げる手段があまりなく、非常に凶悪。 普通のゲームであれば、難易度に関係なくこういったものは集められるものだが、このゲームでは逆で「最高難易度でのボス戦を半ば強制される」という仕組みになっています。 もちろん試行錯誤して倒せばいいだけの話なのですが、これが非常に労力を使うというか……「一定以上のダメージを与えられない」などの制限があるボスも多く、どれだけ火力があろうと、倒すまでに時間がかかるボスが普通にいるというのがまず厄介です。 当然、敵は面倒なギミックの技を使ってくるので、これらに全て対処しなければ駄目です。 そして、どれだけ突き詰めても運が絡み、悪運1つで敗北など針の穴を通すかのような行動を要求された上での理不尽なギミックなど、おおよそ「面白い」とは感じられないボスがかなりいます。 また、プレイアブルキャラは多いものの、ボスごとに有用なキャラはほぼ決まっており、自分の好きなように編成して戦える……とはいかない場面も多いです。 [b]とまあ、こういったものが積み重なって「高難易度」ではなく「高面倒度」の高いゲームとなっていたりします。[/b] ゲームとしてはボリュームがあり、ネタが多数あって面白いのものの、いかんせんそれを真っ向から潰すような仕組みがあり、システム同士の噛み合いがあまり良いとは言い難いです。 前々作（Steamでは出ていない）、前作（Steamでは2の表記が消えている）と来て、進化はしているが、時代にはまったくそぐわない進化なので、万人にオススメ出来るかというと……というのが、この評価。 オススメしたいがオススメするには厳しい要素が多い……多すぎです。 決して出来の悪いゲームではないというか、むしろ普通に良作ではあるのですが……

パズルがとにかく不快、マイナス100点 それ以外は良く出来ていて90点 差引マイナス10点

没想到继去年的《三妖精的蹦蹦跳跳讨伐大作战！》之后，今年又玩到这么一款让我沉迷的东方题材的游戏，感觉自己快成为东方厨了。非常感谢汉化组制作的汉化补丁，没汉化我肯定是玩不下去的。出于对本游戏的喜爱，我将游戏内角色各类数据（主要是技能）整理录入成表格以便查询，如需要可前往指南区查看下载。 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3710315337 本作是一款有着优秀的战斗机制且内容非常丰富的drpg，说实话我喜欢回合制类游戏但对drpg一直不怎么感冒，之前玩过几款drpg（包括大名鼎鼎的世界树迷宫）大都烂尾了，直到玩了本作我才发现并非我不喜欢drpg，而是没遇到对的游戏罢了。总之如果是喜欢回合制或者drpg的玩家，强烈推荐！ [h3] 虽然我强烈推荐，但预防针还是先打在前面，这游戏的一些地方是会劝退部分玩家的。[/h3]在迷宫探索部分有着不少的地图解谜类元素，包括隐藏路、推箱子、冰面滑行、滑块移动、单向传送，尤其后期的几个迷宫里这类解谜是有一定难度的，盲目行进非但绕不出来还有可能陷入死局，导致只能退出重进，不喜欢这类解谜元素的玩家需慎入。另外游戏中有很多的大段文字描述，比如内置的教程、一些技能说明、boss行动模式等等，这实则是为了让玩家更好地理解战斗系统，但对于不喜欢阅读理解的文字过敏型玩家需慎入。 这游戏让我特别喜欢且与众不同的一点是把各种机制和数据都详细地告诉玩家，丝毫不藏着掖着。教程直接展示伤害计算公式和命中计算公式，各种buff和debuff也是明确到具体数值（效果量和持续时间）。战斗中的UI设计得也非常好，选中一个角色，左侧显示各种属性，上方显示持有的buff和debuff（每一条都有详细的说明描述），如果是boss的话下方还会显示行动模式（没错，这个游戏的boss战你是能知道boss每个回合会做啥的）。大部分的回合制游戏，角色攻击敌人的话就是一段动画跳出一个伤害数字，然后就轮到下一个角色，这是再正常不过了吧，但这游戏不一样，角色每一个行动结束后是有一个暂停画面的，需要按确认键才会继续。而这个暂停画面包含了很多信息，比如用技能攻击敌人后，在画面上方能看到这个技能的各项信息（属性、威力、倍率等等），画面右侧的行动条能看到用了这个技能后角色的行动值，敌人身上除了受到的伤害数字外还能看到2个小数字，1个是该伤害的加成倍率（主要取决于敌人的属性耐性），1个是该伤害减轻百分比（主要取决于敌人的防御和精神）。游戏本身的战斗系统就相当有深度，还能如此清晰地展示各类数据，对喜欢研究战斗系统的玩家来说可谓是狂喜了。 目前游戏内容已相当丰富，我个人L难度通关大概在100小时左右，boss战受了不少苦哈哈。但我认为现在的体量还是匹配不上其角色养成的肝度的，这游戏有很多可以肝的要素，比如每种副装备强化到+10需要大量的素材，主武器觉醒石抽卡也需要大量的去刷石头，最肝的是每个角色的锻炼技能树需要该角色在队伍中才能获得经验点数，我目前为止上场最多的角色锻炼技能树也只点了一半左右。。。通关后发现制作组后续还会有更新，那可真是太期待了，希望能有更多的boss战，如果能有个无尽爬塔之类的模式就更好了~

I tried getting into Labyrinth of Touhou 2 a couple times as I always heard good things about it, but for some reason or another, it never quite clicked for me. With Tri, I was finally able to get into this series and by god I am glad I did. It's a much more approachable game, not only due to its improved visuals and QoL, but also a more engaging story that got me hooked way faster. The battle system is incredibly well thought-out, with a lot of details that make it feel completely distinct from many other turn-based RPG games. I absolutely love the way the turn gauge works in this game and how much you can manipulate it, in many cases being able to get many turns before the enemy is able to act (And trust me, you'll NEED those). I also love turn count being an actual resource that influences the way many of the game's skills work. I have also never seen a frontline/backline system that works exactly like this game, and not only is it great to have a large party in a game that has a HUGE number of characters to pick from, it also opens up many interesting strategies, and if you do not take proper advantage of it, the bosses absolutely will screw you over. Not having in-battle items and revives being pretty much non-existent mid-battle is also a very interesting design decision that usually necessitates you to utilize your full party in order to take on its toughest challenges. The bosses also have specific patterns for you to learn, and eventually formulate a counter-strategy for. You are NOT gonna beat them on your first try, for the most part, and that is something I really appreciate! Everything just feels really tightly designed and comes together brilliantly to make for some of the most satisfying boss battles I've ever played in a game like this. And even random encounters occasionally throw a wrench in your way with the Rare Enemies and Horde Battles. On top of all that, it is all EXTREMELY FLAVORFUL from the Touhou theming and an absolute treat for fans. Character kits and a lot of the boss fights will have you constantly thinking "Oh, right, that DOES make sense for this character to do!" Exploration is done in an Isometric form, rather than the standard first-person affair for this kind of game, and it felt like an interesting perspective that worked to its favor. Dungeons slowly get a lot more complex, introducing many navigational puzzles and enviromental gimmicks, which I heard got a little backlash initially, but I am really, REALLY glad the dev decided to revert the "nerf" patch and the game's dungeons are intact in their original form, as they are much more enjoyable like this. Sometimes, it does get a little frustrating, especially the final floor of the last dungeon felt particularly brutal with how specific your movements have to be in order to progress, one mistake making you have to repeat all the steps - In a order you might have not even realized was the correct one to begin with! I'm ngl that one in particular really annoyed me. But overall, I had fun with the puzzles, and I'd much rather the game have this kind of challenge than just being a completely sauceless dungeon crawling experience that are just a means to an end in the way of boss battles. As if that wasn't enough, in what I hear is a first for this series, the story is actually surprisingly really good here! I loved the writing quite a bit, it has really cool themes and explores the inner psyche of the characters in a way I had honestly never seen before in any Touhou-related work (Not that this game is the only thing that does this! But I personally haven't experienced other examples such as it) I'm not entirely sure how well it would work, but as someone who, despite being a fan of the series, has somewhat minimal knowledge of the lore and any outside material, still enjoyed it a lot, I think it might still work! It did an excellent job of introducing Renko and Maribel for me as I had only really heard about them from the fanbase but never dived deep into the official works involving them. To me, it was a constant hook keeping me going forward to not only enjoy the boss battles, but see more of the story. This game has proven itself as an absolutely incredible JRPG experience, right alongside some of my favorites like Octopath Traveler, Etrian Odyssey and SMT games. Not only being the best Touhou fangame I've ever played at the moment, but just one of my favorite games overall. Heavily recommended for fans of Touhou, but if you're just really into DRPGs in general - This might be a good entry point into Touhou media, honestly!

I dream of this combat system becoming more mainstream so I have options to play JRPGs while needing to actually engage with gameplay mechanics.

After playing it a bit more, I've decided that this game is mostly a soulless dungeon crawler. I want to love this game, but it doesn't do enough things right to hold my attention. The difficulty curve is also massive, which would normally be fun but borders sharply on frustration here. All in all, it's a decent game, but it's just not something that you're going to love if you want a fun upbeat adventure in Gensokyo. It's more like Wizardry with a Touhou skin. I hope you'll still play it if that's what you're into, but I wanted something a little better.

Although I've been aware of Touhou for many years, this is the first game I've played in the setting. I got a good amount of enjoyment out of this title, and am quite satisfied that it was worth the price. This is a straightforward dungeon crawler built around combat rather than puzzles. The use of treasure chests to encourage exploration and the huge amount of ways to manipulate characters (skills tree choices, training, magical strengthening, tome usage, equipment, equipment buffs, and levels) presented sufficient stimulation to carry me to the end of the game. The boss fights are like tests. Each has specific skills, strengths, and weaknesses that can be countered by different combinations of the cast. For some bosses in the story it's possible to stack direct damage and ignore the mechanics, but a good chunk of the mid-late bosses have caps to how much damage they take from a single attack. As a casual player, I found such caps slightly frustrating, but I understood what the developer was aiming for. Unfortunately I never really got familiar enough with the cast to think "ah, for this fight I should have brought X and set her up with Y's buffs first" and many characters I never used at all. For those inclined to spend the effort investigating possible interactions I imagine the game might end up being quite easy. Still, I just about muddled through with only occasional reference to helper websites. The story was simple and serviceable. I suspect there were many references to other Touhou materials that completely flew over my head. The character art is of a style that suits my preference more than e.g. EtrianHD and quite consistent in quality. The audio is serviceable, but after a while I ended up muting the music in favour of my own. For me, completing the lunatic challenges would require the use of a very detailed guide and a lot of grinding for extra resources so I wouldn't have to spend several working days in the menus juggling things between characters. I ended up doing only a dozen before finishing the main story and putting the game down. Though the game doesn't support use of a mouse (keyboard or controller only!), the developer did add support for running in the background in windowed mode so I could have it on a second screen. There are also numerous settings for speeding up the game and turning off special effects. These small quality of life features were hugely important in keeping me playing. My most used characters were Aya, Marisa, Sakuya, Meiling, and Alice - all of whom have very simple skills to work with. Who will be on your list?

I will say first off is that this game is not nice. Exploration is good since it adds scenery compared to the 2nd game while moving around, and the goodies you can find are all visible on the map so if you are in for completion then it's easy to based on what you didnt collect yet. Do note that there are hidden paths sometimes, and the scenery kind of gives hints like an open gate, 2 pillars, or a path of wheat that extend further then it should. Holy bosses though who will humble you real fast from even the very first one encountered, which as you would expect, just gets harder the farther you progress, which can fun in their own way. Unlike labyrinth 2 which ended up be a kill before the boss moves (and this game does have strats to one shot almost every boss in the game), but as i figured out can be slow ran and beaten using strategy, or as another review puts it, a puzzle that you need to figure out, and is more satifying when you find the thing that clicks (with the exception of maybe 2-3 bosses in total which are actual BS). This game brings over many things from the 2nd game but expands on them, for one thing main equipment isn't found, only crafted and the material to do it is rare at best so for the most part isnt that much of a consideration. Elite and boss battles has a give up button, quick retry, and the option to both open the menu to swap unit formations, gear, and skills, but also has the option of grabbing someone from the lounge if you think they are needed in that moment. All in all, i like this game better then 2, but it definitely isn't for the feint of heart given the difficulty even on normal (though i played on hard), just GL and HF.