Chained Echoes

A jrpg made by a person that likes the idea of playing one but not actually doing it. Visually the game is really nice and it has a solid OST, but the combat especially the sky armor combat is not very well thought out and boring/frustrating depending on the boss. the progression system is is abysmal with how slow and unrewarding it is.

[도전과제 100% 달성, DLC 유무는 도과에 영향 X] 체인드에코즈 히든 보스 및 모든 수집품 & 도전 과제 완료했습니다 리뷰 갈게요. 첫인상은 좀 캐쥬얼한 턴제 도트 RPG 느낌이었는데 이거 기본 난이도가 꽤 맵습니다, 따라서 난이도를 낮춰줄 수 있는 각종 장비템에 대한 니즈가 생기는데요. 기본적으로 장비 (무기, 방어구) 강화 두 번에 룬을 인첸트해서 장비에 꽂아줄 수 있는데 룬 종류가 다양해서 여러가지 시도해보는 재미가 쏠쏠했습니다. 또 스킬도 종류가 다양해서 여러가지를 찍을 수 있는데 이 스킬을 장착할 수 있는 슬롯이 한정되어 있습니다 (액티브, 패시브 스킬 둘 다) 따라서 최고의 시너지를 낼 수 있는 조합을 찾아야 하는데 조합 후 필드 전투에서 이런 저런 시도를 해보는 것도 즐거웠습니다. 특이점으로는 한 판 전투가 끝나면 HP와 TP (마나) 그리고 상태이상이 전부 회복됩니다. 말 그대로 이기기만 하면 됩니다. 전반적으로 준수한 도트 그래픽과 파밍 그리고 조합, 전투의 재미라고 할 수 있겠네요. 자 이제 단점. 다만 단점으로는 장비 업그레이드를 해도 다음 장비가 나오면 바로 버려야 합니다, 인첸트가 된 룬은 빼서 새로운 장비에 넣어줄 수는 있는데 문제는 이게 전부 수동이라 뺐다 꼈다 하는데 시간이 많이 소모되고 엄청 귀찮습니다. 이 정도 편의성 업그레이드는 분명히 해줄 수 있을텐데 말이죠.. 맵이 엄청 복잡시럽습니다. 보물 상자가 많고 맵이 굉장히 넓은데다 후반이 되서 기믹이 열려야 갈 수 있는 곳이 많아서 일일이 길 찾는게 스트레스입니다. 수집품 요소가 굉장히 많은데 이게 강요되는 느낌. 히든 보스를 잡으려면 최고 장비로 둘러싸고 있어야 합니다. 최고급 장비를 얻으려면 모든 맵을 돌아다니면서 리워드 보드라는 걸 다 완성해야 전부 얻을 수 있습니다. (도과 때문이 아니라면 주력 캐릭터 장비만 모아도 되지만 문제는 공략을 보지 않으면 찾기 어렵습니다) 도과쟁이인 저도 좀 지쳤을 정도로 해야 할게 많은데 여기서 많은 유저들이 끝까지 콘텐츠를 즐기지 못할 거라는 생각이 들었네요. 마지막 10시간 정도는 그냥 빨리 끝내고 싶은 마음뿐이었습니다 ㅠ 줄이며, 전반적으로 우수한 턴제 알피지 게임인데 몇 가지 불편한 요소들 때문에 재미가 좀 경감되는 느낌이었습니다. 여러 스팀 리뷰들에서도 그게 들어나네요. 그래도 할인 때 즐기시면 후회는 없으리라 봅니다! 본인이 수집 요소에 미친다? 잘 맞을 겁니다.

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Chained Echoes is a good game weighed down by a lot of small annoyances. I still had a fair amount of fun with it, but by the end I was starting to grow tired of some of its mechanics. The combat system is one of the stronger parts of the game. It feels complex enough to stay engaging without becoming overly convoluted. The overdrive system is an interesting idea, though managing it can sometimes feel more tedious than rewarding. Combat also became repetitive over time, especially during the Sky Armor fights. The difficulty curve felt uneven as well: the early game was fairly challenging, but eventually the game became quite easy. Progression is one of the weaker aspects. Some new skills are genuinely strong and useful, but many feel too situational to matter, if not outright pointless. Character growth outside of that mostly comes down to equipment, crystals, and class emblems. Equipment is largely a straightforward numbers upgrade. Crystals are cumbersome to set up and transfer between gear, and most of them didn’t feel worth using anyway - I mostly defaulted to HP drain, stat boosts, and on-hit status effects. Class emblems also felt underwhelming, since they were mostly just stat boosts paired with weaker versions of skills characters could already learn elsewhere. I liked the writing more than I expected to. For most of the game, I was invested in the world and in much of the cast. The game occasionally veers into odd or quirky territory, but for the most part it worked for me. Unfortunately, the ending was weak and didn’t really pay off that investment. Presentation is a mixed bag. The pixel art is solid and the soundtrack is very pleasant, but the animations - when they exist - and the sound effects feel overused. Some abilities ended up feeling unsatisfying to use simply because of how they looked and sounded. On the technical side, the game ran almost perfectly on my Linux desktop. The native version performed much better for me than Proton: Proton froze fairly often, while the native version only did so rarely, and even that was almost entirely fixed by running it with gamemoderun. Overall, Chained Echoes is a solid RPG with a lot to like, especially in its combat, world, and music, but it’s also held back by repetitive battles, weak progression systems, and an underwhelming ending.

Так и не осилил эту игру. Слишком низкого качества тут оказались почти все элементы. Просто элементарно было скучно и нагоняло сон. А уж левелдизайн и буквальные дыры в сюжете вообще вызывали испанский стыд. В игре плохо все, кроме музыки. Унылая боевка, что героями, что на роботах. Муторный и долгий крафт и работа с экипировкой. Прокачка, не дающая чувства новизны. Сюжет с обилием дыр в событиях. Отвратный левелдизайн с этими опостылевшими «There is wrong way». Вынужденное многократное посещение старых локаций. Обилие багов. https://squarefaction.ru/game/the-grand-grimoire/comments/364231 Короче игра очень слабая. Я больше удовольствия получил, играя в фанатскую Фентези Стар 4: 20 лет спустя, чем в это. Никому не советую. Это полный Wrong Way, и никому не рекомендую.

Clearly intended to be an epic JRPG opus, Chained Echoes’ widescreen ambitions are too often handicapped by smaller-scale design gaffes. Biggest positives: + Detailed worlds that feel like a maximalist expansion on the settings of the SNES-era JRPGs + Obviously a lot of thought put into the extensive world-building Other notes: - The overdrive system is poorly framed. You spend most of each fight in overdrive, so it stops feeling like a ‘special’ boost pretty early. The reward for being in overdrive is a manacost reduction, which feels like a relatively unexciting buff. - The protracted basic fights really stunt the game’s motion before it fully has a chance to take off Full review: https://toothbrush.blog/review/chained-echoes/

This game seems very overrated. It has one of the worst JRPG battle systems I've ever seen. At first the Overdrive meter system, which is the centerpiece of the combat, seemed like a novel idea, something which would help avoid the trap that JRPGs fall into where you end up with a set sequence of abilities that is always correct and rarely needed to deviate from them. But it just replaced it with basically the turn based version of "simon says" where the state of the overbar makes it so that one choice is almost always obviously correct, and any other action will just put you at a disadvantage. At no point when fighting enemies in this game did I feel like I had to really consider my actions - I just did the thing that the overdrive system demanded that I do. The advantage is that every fight plays out a little differently becuase of the RNG nature of the Overdrive system, but that comes with the heavy disadvantage of removing almost all player agency during the combat. Otherwise the rest seemed very average. The story seems "ok", but I didn't finish it so maybe it gets better (or worse). The art style is basically the same as every other small developer pixel art RPG out there, it looks good but doesn't set itself apart in any meaningful way. Overall, pretty disappointed in this one. I expected more from rave reviews, but it just wasn't there.

The story was really good and took some turns I wasn't expecting. The gameplay was fun and the overdrive mechanic does add some strategy to make it not a basic turn-based battle system. Overall had a great time with it.

Overdrive system is stupid. Being hit sets you into overheat constantly and then you have to use skills that don’t help you as much to cool it down. Oh you need to heal after being hit? Too bad, it will cause you to be overheated and take double damage. There are lots of enemies with double attacks as well, causing you to be overheated for most of the battles without choice. Not being able to level up and choose new skills without story checkpoints just makes this boring in between main story events. After 3 hours I was still not able to level up skills. Wish I could refund the game at this point.

After completing Chained Echoes and getting all the achievements, I consider this one of the best turn-based RPGs I've ever played. The combat is interesting and stays challenging up until the end, there is plenty to explore and hidden secrets to uncover, and the story is well-written and at times emotionally moving. I'm really impressed with this game, you can tell the developers made it with a lot of heart. The only aspect I would change is the crystal system, because it gets cumbersome when you have dozens of crystals that you want to sort through and manually combine. You can use auto-combine, but it's not the same. I also would've appreciated an endgame crystal merchant to make collection simpler. Thankfully, you don't necessarily need to dive deep into the crystal system, except maybe in the endgame stage. If you like classic Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest type roleplaying games, give this one a chance. I definitely recommend it!