Suikoden I&II HD Remaster Gate Rune and Dunan Unification Wars

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以前玩的時候根本看不懂劇情

Not bad, but 100% Overhyped, didn't age well even with the remake the inventory in both games is a nightmarish JOKE. the antagonist of 2 is nothing but a kid with rage, CRINGE AF!

the PSX (1) era was the jrpg era most iconic IPs and even studios either were created around this time or became famous (FF for example) and everyone from that time has his favorites mine were Xenogears, Luna SS and both Suikodens (Planescape, BG1+2, Wizardry and co.) didn't touch any of those games until recently again and i honestly thought it was just the goggles of nostalgia making me think modern jprgs are kinda subpar (to be kind) but both the Luna remaster (although i am still not a fan of Eternal Blue) and especialy the Suikoden remaster made me rethink that stance. these games are just on a whole nother level. about the worst thing when playing these games (today) is that you won't be able to touch these "call back" new rpgs again...all these attemps to bring back those golden jrpg days are just miserably in comparision gamedevelopement was an artform and treated as such and not just as a moneymaking machine. Suikoden 1 is a simple(r) game; even doing pretty much everything you will spend around 20 to 30 hours it is unintrusive: the equipment system, combat, the strategic battles, the plot, heck the grind but that is not a bad thing. Suikoden 1 is just a pleasure to pick up and actualy finish. the remaster also nailed the QoL improvements and the visual upgrades and didn't realy touch the already magnificent OST (still one of the best in the genre). you collect all sorts of characters, equip em , grind (which goes realy fast) and pretty much enjoy the story broken up by a simple strategic warfare minigame (and some other smaller and optional minigames) it is an incredible charming cast, even though many of these 100+ chars are not that deep it is a realy fun little turnbased combat system all packed in very pleasent audio-visual presentation. it is not just the OST or the art(style) but also the color-pallette and effects that make both games still unique. the "vibe" so to say. the 2nd game pretty much took everything Suikoden 1 did and upped the production budget by a 100. the grafics (especialy in the remaster) look even better, the OST is even more varied and still as memorable the cast has more animations and often more bits of story or lore tied to em the equipment system has seen an influx of options and complexety (instead of 1 rune per char you get 3 slots during the game, instead of attaching simple damage-type runes to weapons now they get all sort of passive effects, etc.) the strategic layer took inspiration from Fire Emblem, Shining Force and Tactics (more Ogre than Final Fantasy) but is still simple enough to not get on your nerves the world is bigger, there is way more emphasis on plot and plot presentation (ingame cutscenes, pre-rendered cutscenes, unique setpieces) Suikoden 1 is a milestone that you can start and finish (unlike some boring as hell mamoth games released in recent years) meanwhile Suikoden 2 is for the enthusiast offering Suikoden 1 on steroids but also needing more dedication both games hold up incredible well and similiarly to the Lunar remaster or the (realy bad port) Breath of Fire 4 port show that us older folk do have a point when we claim gaming was "better" in those days l dare you to play any of the throw-away oh so acclaimed modern day SE games like Octopath Traveler and then play something like Luna Silver Star Story or the Suikoden package (nevermind BoF4) it will ruin modern game-developement for you nevermind that Konami probably produced one of the best remasters i have ever seen with this package as games and as a remaster an easy 10/10 and an absolute must have

Back to classics, there's no JRPG Story wise better than Suikoden & Suikoden II. I like the new features you can speed up the battle in auto mode.

Two of the best RPG's, no, two of the best GAMES ever made! I've finished them on PS1 in my youth, on emulator, and now on PC (only the second one yet as of writing). I still get the urge to come back now and then.