Space Haven

This game is the epitome of why there needs to be a half-thumbs up and down on Steam. I want to LOVE space haven, it's not only right up my street, it's in my home, on my couch, eating my pizza. BUT, the game fights you at every stage with a poor user interface and control system that, after playing Rimworld, makes it feel like a slog to get basic tasks done. The perfect example - one of my crewmembers needs medical attention: I should be able to click the crewmember, tell him or her to sleep in the medical bed. Newp, have to draft them and walk them over. Then, you should be able to click your doctor, and right click the injured pawn and say "Heal that dude." Newp, I have to draft them and walk them over manually. The game trips over itself making simple tasks difficult, which is a crying shame because there is an awesome game hidden under this clunky control system. If the devs could just look at stuff like this and make Quality of Life improvements that make playing it's controls easier then this would be one of my favourite games that I would sink a thousand hours into. But, in its present state, i just cant.

Death by a thousand bugs. This is a complex game that offers a deep and detailed simulation with a wide range of gameplay options and brutal difficulty spikes. Playing this feels like assembling an incredibly fragile and complex device that suddenly falls apart every time you're almost done. - Multiple NPCs from the same faction can give multiple quests to deliver the same item. Only one of those quests can be completed, and the inevitable failure of the second will reduce your reputation with their faction. The game doesn't warn you about this. - The shuttle paths are not saved. After loading, the enemy boarding team forgets who they were supposed to board and returns home. Your shuttles suffer from this too. - Debuffs are completely bugged, and their behavior is inconsistent. Their duration, number of stacks, and severity are displayed incorrectly everywhere. You can get a permanent "insomnia" debuff, which makes your character lose the ability to sleep... forever. This bug persists even after saving and/or loading, meaning you could permanently corrupt your save file. - If you manually stop salvaging a derelict ship, remove your characters from it, and cancel all tasks on that ship, you'll repeatedly see your characters automatically return to the derelict ship only to stand there doing nothing. This is a hidden task (to just stand there) that somehow ends up on the task stack and can't be removed. - The training computer is bugged. If you turn it off, save the game, and then load it, the training computer will be turned on. This behavior is not typical of any other device in the game. - Characters get stuck in cryosleep pods. - Shuttles sometimes fly right through the bottom of the asteroid landing pad. - Characters forget how to use furniture and get the "eating on the go" debuff. - After publishing the review, I discovered that the same thing can happen with beds. Characters sometimes just fall asleep on the floor. This poor review has been updated ten times already because I keep finding new bugs.

This game is just empty... A lot of my hours are just the game running afk or left in the background. I just kept sticking around thinking the game will get fun once I get X, the game will get fun after I do Y, but it doesn't... It never gets fun... It's tedious at all points! 1. The AI is very bad, tasks take 10x longer than they need to be because they just don't chain jobs... You want to harvest a ship? The guy will destroy a wall, run to the other side of the ship to destroy a chair, run to the other side of the ship to take apart an engine, then go back to your ship for a sip of tea, and then back... This is why the game plays more like an idle game because I put it on 4x speed and watch a movie for 15 minutes and come back to see the ship taken apart and then I watch another 15 min of my movie while they struggle to unload it all... 2. Combat is very boring, it looks like you get behind cover, crouch and etc etc but you don't... It's just numbers, you just get more people over and just make them all walk up to enemies to spam kill everything! Or if raiding a bug ship you just micro walk back and forth to avoid getting hit, it's boring... 3. The ship feels tedious? It doesn't really do anything... You just need enough asteroid def turrets and food generation and that's it, now you can afk even more efficiently!! The terrible AI in this game means that you will spend more of your time AFK, just avoid this game, that fun point you expect, never comes.

I finally got bored, so it's clearly time to leave a review. After seeing so many nasty reviews, I was pleasantly surprised by the game: [list] [*][b] Outstanding pixel art:[/b] deliberately retro/1990s isometric aesthetic has a distinctive identity - ships and stations feel like a miniatures. [*][b] Excellent ship/station construction:[/b] everything is designed tile by tile rather than assembled from predefined rooms/blocks. A bad layout can become a logistical nightmare, while a good one feels like something you've genuinely engineered yourself. [*][b] Deep resource and interconnected systems management:[/b] it involves power, oxygen, heat, food, production, research, crew needs, weapons, logistics and resource processing, among others. Small decisions can have consequences much later, so expanding your ship is about more than simply having enough resources to build something. [*][b] Satisfying game loop:[/b] at its core, this is a primarily colony sim with tactics/combat sequences when you encounter derelict ships, followed by salvaging their resources. [/list] So, there's a lot of gameplay depth for a relatively small indie game. That said, there are a few frustrations: [list] [*][b] The gameplay loop gets repetitive.[/b] The early game is strong, but the mid-to-late game eventually becomes a repeated cycle of exploring and salvaging derelicts. Once you've figured out the basic progression, there isn't enough variety to keep things interesting. You mostly encounter the same enemies and dangers over and over, just in greater numbers. [*][b] The setting and story are extremely generic.[/b] This is a game for people who enjoy systems, optimization, and building things - not for people looking for a compelling story or memorable universe. [*][b] Ship and station modes are almost the same game.[/b] In ship mode, you choose which sectors to travel to; in station mode, derelicts and asteroids simply come to you. You might expect ship mode to offer an [i]'explore the galaxy'[/i] experience, but the sectors are largely identical, so there's very little actual exploration. [/list]

I want to like this game. But there are too many QoL things that need to be fixed to make the game less tedious: - Combat and movement, in general, is bad. If you want to do well you'd want to pause at 1x speed and micromanage everyone. Not being able to shoot while moving, combined with the slow movement, makes combat very dangerous. - It's too difficult to get detailed info you need to manage something like a big station. Power, for example, is not well described. Lots of data points, but not useful data, like the ratio of your solar panel usage to generator useage. - Some noob-trap type stuff. The composter is NOT helpful but presents itself as the primary way to get fertilizers. - Tasks constantly get neglected. Needs more granularity in the task priority management system. Doctoring is difficult to get consistently done since there are only 7 total levels of priority, and you can't rearrange priority within a priority group (ie: these are all +3 priority, but do them in this order within the +3 group). - Managing inventories is difficult and tedious, as well. - The drafting/boarding/salvaging is annoying until youve cleared the ship. - Away missions take too long to complete. You lose a big portion of your crew for days. - Building is extremely inefficient, space-wise. The game wants you to build lots of rooms, but losing an entire row of tiles per wall is a huge cost. - Food consumption is impossible to track. - Un-dismissable warnings like your kitchen not having enough meat just give you notification fatigue. - Fires are way too catastrophic for how often they can happen. Firefighting is ineffective unless you immediately get on it. I mean within seconds you have to have someone putting it out or it just rages out of control. - Fire burns everything equally, so your metal machinery is catching on fire for some reason. - Lack of a sprinkler system is odd for a future-setting game. - Just how much clicking and little annoying repeated micromanaging you have to do, even with six people. Overall, seems like it didn't learn enough from Rimworld. Cool idea, but just needs more QoL to make it worth the time to play.

Я разобрался как играть в Space haven. На среднем уровне сложности. Это очень реалистичная игра! Микрозаймы!!!! Сначала берешь у всех фракций денег в долг под 150% годовых. Это 18000! На эти деньги можно проскочить начало развития. И доковырять до первых прибыльных технологий. Открыть филиал китайского завода. Носишься по карте и скупаешь углерод, химию, металл, пластик. И непрерывно клепаешь дешевые винтовки и балоны с кислородом. Втюхиваешь их всем встречным. За это время надо подтянуть ткань и начать делать дешевые китайские бронежилеты. На всем этом можно средненько поднять корабль и раздать долги. А средненькому кораблю доступны - ГОСКОНТРАКТЫ!!! Фракции заказывают вам постройку базы. С передачей ее заказчику. И выделяют ресурсы. Вот тут карта и идет. Воткнуть кровать над толчком. Кухню совместить с ядерным реактором. Внутренние стены? - Излишество. Освещение на станции? Нах, у вас есть фонарики! Никто не обещал в космосе свет. В общем я ухитряюсь спиздить на стройке базы от 30 до 60% материалов. На скрине мой корабль после 2х госконтрактов. Я не успеваю его даже перестраивать. Очень реалистичная игра. Микрозаймы, воровство на застройке и гос контрактах, пошив дешевого китайского текстиля. Но остался непонятный момент. Мне обещали бои в космосе, пиратов исследование галактики. А я даже ни одного пирата не видел за всю игру... Возможно я что то делаю не так...

Ist "Space Haven" ein Refund oder Replay Titel? Aus der Sicht eines Gamer-Dads mit wenig Zeit fürs Hobby schaue ich mir Spiele immer unter bestimmten Aspekten an, hier ist mein Kurzfazit: Zeitaufwand: Schwer zu beurteilen. Es gibt keine abgeschlossenen Level, da der Progress, der Ausbau und das Erkunden das Ziel sind. Natürliche Zeitfenster für schnelle Sessions fehlen hier leider. Pausierbarkeit: Jederzeit! Absoluter Pluspunkt für den Alltag. Komplexität: Sehr komplex mit einer verdammt steilen Lernkurve. Alleine die Tutorials gehen locker über 2 Stunden – und danach geht es erst richtig los, weil du dich an alles erinnern musst. DARUM GEHT'S (IN KÜRZE): Du baust dir in schicker Pixelgrafik dein eigenes Raumschiff auf, das du später zu einer ganzen Flotte erweitern kannst. Du erkundest das Universum, sammelst Ressourcen und triffst auf verlassene – oder eben nicht ganz verlassene – Schiffe. Das Ziel: Mit deiner Crew überleben und Neues entdecken. Optisch holt mich das Ding voll ab und das System an sich sagt mir echt zu. REFUND ODER REPLAY? REFUND – Für mich war es leider ein Refund, der Funke wollte einfach nicht überspringen. Das Spiel ist alles andere als ein Titel zum Entspannen nach harten Arbeitstagen und taugt wegen der Komplexität einfach nicht für kurze Zeitfenster.

I wanted to like this game. I REALLY DID! At first, the slow gameplay as you build up your ship and recruit crew from wrecks I encountered was very enjoyable and even restful. All the references to the best Sci-Fi show ever, Babylon 5, made my inner geek laugh and squee with glee. Unfortunately, after 277 hours of gameplay, the poor ship-to-ship combat mechanics is killing the game for me for the following reasons: - Damaging blasts to your ship or the enemy's ships only damage the ship and the equipment in it, but the squishy humans only get harmed by the fire and smoke. The humans still won't get harmed if they are in the open and standing where your ship's cannons are striking! - You can click on an incoming shuttle carrying an invasion force, but your (Star Fury) fighters take that as a way point instead of a specific target and may get distracted by another target, like the enemy mother ship's defense guns and end up getting shredded instead of shredding that unarmed shuttle. - If you DO destroy that incoming shuttle, odds are its crew will emerge unscathed and still board your ship or finish retreating to the ship, and your fighters CANNOT target them. Thus, the only way to take out the enemy crew seems to be to attack them with your crew directly, no matter how many fighters and guns you have. Thus, why bother building cannons and fighters at all? Just get more crew and shuttles, arm the crew well, and send them out to capture the ships. You'll save yourself time and lost profit in doing so. Just be sure to also get a single jammer to prevent your ship from getting shot at all and plenty of defense guns to ensure shuttle loads of boarders are expensive one-way trips. The crew combat mechanics are OK. The crew want to occupy their own tiles, but you can get them all to stack on the same tile if you order each of them to the same tile. You can then take your healthiest crew and put them in front of the weaker ones to act as shields. I've not seen enemies use grenades and flamethrowers YET, so my crew has been a bit better armed than enemies thus far. This combat has been fine, but is starting to get a bit tedious, especially when it seems to be the only combat that really matters. Overall, this game has potential, but I can't say I'd recommend it YET. It's still only in Version 1.02, so there's room for it to grow. There are a LOT of details to crew stats and the environment on the ships I won't uninstall it yet, and will come back to this a bit later to see if it's improved.

This game is such a dumpsterfire of bugs and unexplained ♥♥♥♥-you secretly mechanisms. I'll just post 5 separate rants before I had a bitter enough taste to leave a negative review. 1. Rogue bots are attacking you (and that civilian ship that's just standing there) Oh boy, better charge up my warp to escape in case my defenses are insufficient. > Bots swarm unarmed civilian ship > It just stands there > goes down to 30% hp while the dudes inside just casually walk around repairing random ♥♥♥♥ > calls me > hey we are missing some resources. We will pay you squat in exchange for 3 hull block > I watch ship get destroyed (I have no fighters and my ship is out of range, and ships apparently cannot propel themselves) > Yay, more salvage! > I wait for bots to attack me, my point defense shot them down before > Point defense just stares into nothing as it gets obliterated and my dudes just walk around the ship casually > Have to reload save Turns out the operations console ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ needs to be manned for the automatic defenses to work, apparently. And it's assigned to the one guy walking around on the other end of the ship for some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason And if you draft someone nearby and try to make them take the console, they are only willing to shoot at the console And you cannot manually assign the job because it automatically selected some idiot and it does not let you manually click the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ button. 2. They made a specific button to set where a person is during a battle. And they still wander off. I boarded the destoyed civvie ship to get its precious resources. I set transfer all. They do not transfer. Ever. And there is no manual way to make them move it. 3. Aaaand I had to reload the save, because 2 stations at the objective were offering a retrieve item quest each as well as an impossible quest, so I accepted the retrieve item quest, then I selected the other retrieve item quest, but turns out the other retrieve item quest ceases to exist, and instead the impossible quest is given, whose failure cost it twice your bank account at a reward of 10% of what the penalty is for failing. 4. The military alliance is upset after searching me. -5 relations. They will not say why. Nowhere does the game tell you why. 5. So turns out ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moving buildings actually costs a lot of resources in build tools, but the game does not at all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tell you this. Every char has like 400 tools in their inventory, and they use it up when they finish (re) building a thing. The game at no point of the move informs you that this costs resources. I had to click the dude, go into his inventory, and watch the tools little number go down when he finished pushing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ radiator across the room.