Darkest Dungeon® II

Not NEARLY as good as the first one. Quite boring actually, the first one was challenging but fun. This one is just trash. The whole stagecoach mechanic is stupid. Overall a waste of money. id rather just play the first one again over this hot garbage.

a great sequel to a great game

nmlb，我这辈子最后悔的就是以为1好玩买了2，什么jb玩意儿，除了美术就是一坨。

The mechanics are really ♥♥♥♥ IMO. Stress and healing are balanced so bad in this game. Healing is gated behind your character being at a certain HP BEFORE they can get healed. Like why? The relation system feels way to forced, and if you don't have good relations you get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ really hard from the debuffs put on your moves. I also hate that you are forced to fight a lair boss to challenge the mountain because one of your characters will always die to one unless you have a very specific team made, and you will always have a character have a meltdown from stress which then make EVERYONE on your team hate them. Like you already lose all that characters health when they have a meltdown and on top of that they get -2 relation with everyone which in turn makes all your moves worse. Horrendous balancing decision. I get the game is suppose to be hard, but like when this happens it's an instant abandon run. It's not just that either. Getting certain diseases in this game can also be instant abandon runs as well. Their is a disease that gives your character -15% max health. If you get this on your tank the run is not worth continuing, and this applies in every bad way you can think of for other roles as well. In the first game, yea there are bad things that can happen, but runs would be like 15-20 min max. This is a full on slay the spire type game. Runs take like 40-60 min each and it feels gigga ♥♥♥♥ when something like this happens, because it doesn't feel like I did something wrong in most cases. I just get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by RNG and am expected to say "unlucky" and go to the next run. If that happened like 1 of 5 runs sure. But it happens like 4 of 5 runs. There is to much RNG in this game for healing to be limited, and stress to be egregiously punishing.

It plays different to the first one. This is both good and bad Combat in this one is more honest, I feel. Easier too. You definitely don't get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by rng as hard, which is nice. If you throw an attack it's 100% guaranteed to land and the game makes EXTREMELY clear the instances in which it is not. Which brings me to the token system. Lotta people hate on it, not really sure why tbh. It's intimidating for like, 0.2 seconds until you realize that it's a system that very clearly signposts itself. I genuinely have no idea how it could possibly explain itself more clearly than it already is. I promise it's not as hard to grasp as it looks as long as you like. use more than 2% of your brain lol A lotta people hate the horse and carriage too, I guess I kinda understand but It's like. mildly inoffensive at worst, but idk man people like to talk about it as if it dragged their balls through broken glass for some reason I think one of the big things is that there aren't really any dungeons in this one though, save for the catacombs and maybe the sluice. Whether that's strictly speaking BAD or not idrk. I do kinda miss the dungeons and navigating them, but the roadtrip style fits more with this game's vibe, both literally and very much thematically, so I'm not really broken up about it tbh The third Big Change is that they got rid of the affliction system in exchange for a relationship system. Meaning like, the game mechanically prioritizes the relationships each character has with each other, rather than each character's individual mental state. I like this new system tbh, humans are a communal species and I think it's nice that the game rewards forming bonds. Also I think this is one of the only times the Power of Friendship has been a game mechanic and it didn't come off as cheesy lol Going hand in hand with that, the characters feel like less blank slates now, they're more like. Themselves, I guess. You can still rename them and customize their color palettes (and weapons now!), but they've got like, more effort put into their lore, backstories, and characterization rather than just a little comic you can find on their website that isn't even in the game. Whether you like these guys fully-fledged characters or prefer the more blank-slate approach of dd1, that's just personal preference, I think. Nothing wrong with either choice, I'd say I think the biggest change really is just The Vibe. It's simultaneously more and less hopeless than the first one. Like, DD1 had a sense that all the horror stuff was kinda localized, mild breakouts of eldritch spookiness, but the rest of the world seemed largely alright, which was somewhat reassuring despite the more miserable atmosphere in the spots The Horror took place DD2 is DEFINITELY not the same in that sense. It's very explicitly bigger in scale, which feels all the more hopeless to me as you see all the different flavors of societal destruction that your 4 guys couldn't possibly solve on their own. The grander scale feels more helpless to me despite the game's generally more optimistic tone. Wayne June is a bit nicer in this one I feel, less "Callous ghost that laughs at you" and more "Encouraging mentor placing a hand on your back (though still a ghost)" It's also blue now. idk it's blue now whereas the first game was red I hope that made sense Overall, It's bigger, scarier, and the characters are more realistically proportioned this time around, (which I personally am a huge fan of) and the Kingdoms things are some really fun postgame content! (My favourite is the witches one) I do wish they'd bring back Arbalest though, she was cool. She has a nifty sorta shoutout in Kingdoms but I wish she came back as her own character. I miss my cool mercenary lady tbh TL:DR this game is cool! Easier in some ways, harder in others, and above all else, it's Trying Something New. As long as you keep in mind that it's setting out to shake up the formula and that "different" doesn't automatically equal "bad", you should have a pretty good time with it, I think I know I did :)

Not a very good sequel...the developers seemed to have been so concerned with doing somthing new they messed around with their "winning" formula from the first game and gave us whatever this is.

如果你没玩过地牢一，那他是个很有意思的游戏，如果你玩过地牢一，那这作显然并不多好玩，但就是很帅，是的，我就是因为很帅所以买了