The Talos Principle 2

前作是我最喜欢的解谜游戏，没想到续作开发成了真正的剧情游戏。 依然很喜欢本系列令人心情平静而充满哲思的氛围，文本中很多对人类文明及人性的思辨都相当好。 解谜难度较一代有所上升。 剧情方面，故事的重点在于“是否要因为上一个文明的毁灭而限制新文明的发展”，以及“神化缔造者与自我成长”。虽然情节难免落入“爱与真相能拯救一切”的老生常谈，但过程中还是有不少有价值的讨论。而且本作的人物塑造非常惊喜，个性十足的新人类时刻进行着观点碰撞，却又共同维护着一个理性、包容的环境。（真令人怀念很多年前的网络环境。） 还有谁来懂一下拜伦/阿尔卡特兹这对……

As a puzzle game I do not find Talos the Second to be particularly enjoyable, rather it comes across as.. tiresome. Tiresome to get from puzzle to puzzle, tiresome to walk about the puzzles themselves. While puzzle difficulty is going to be different for everyone, most puzzles don't seem to go much beyond their initial tutorial premise - and there is a mechanic to bypass them if they do get in your way. Overall too.. simple. Too formulaic. "We need twelve sectors, and twelve puzzles in each one. Fill 'er up." The gall to even consider following a floating orb across the landscape a puzzle or an activity worth doing. Talos II seems to be more about everything surrounding the puzzles. Wonderful environments, arguably excessively large environments, to emphasise considering the beauty of nature and force time to consider what the characters are discussing. The entire premise of what you are. Including and building upon the considerations of the first game. All the world building around the puzzles is enrapturing. The philosophy aspect can be difficult to encapsulate. Sometimes it feels like it goes beyond a simple 'is the thinking and feeling robot in front of you a person' level, other times for all its words and presentation, is it really? Some aspects are brushed on without trying to prompt any further discussion, or sometimes you might just be internally exhausted by the accusations of hubris by a certain pink robot. The point could be to go through the motions, to go through the discussions, and feel whatever you feel. At least your options of response are -usually- not just binary extremes. ..If only it was more fun.

A lobotomized gorilla could solve these puzzles.

Of the games I've ever played, this one (and to a lesser degree, the original), is the most underrated game. I'm guessing that I will finish it at around 50 hours and there may not be much replay-ability. However, that first play through is epic in every conceivable way. Looking at the achievement percentages, some people skip some of the story details. But they still get a great, if abbreviated, story experience. I've also seen as I've progressed, that the achievement percentages barely drop off. If you're one of the ~60% who really go into the game, then you likely finished it. You could have a university level philosophy course completely around this game. The game can also serve as an interesting background for alignment discussions as we move into mainstream agentic AI, and as AGI and ASI get closer. The choices are not perfect and in some cases won't offer the option you'd like to pick. But it is close enough in most cases. Only some "free will" comments bother me. It generally does not force any viewpoints on the player. You choose and some NPCs will like your choices while others will not. If you are on the fence enough with this game to be reading comments, tl;dr - Yes, buy it!

Шедевр мысли. Совершенство философии. Идеальное продолжение.

Interesting follow-up to the first game. I really hate UE5. The Serious Engine had charm. Oh well.

Game looks janky visually, the first person camera game me headache for some reason even with high FOV, maybe because the player is too fast or maybe because the controls feel delayed. First few puzzles were somewhat easy and on the ones i was stuck it was more like "how did i miss that" instead of aha moments, maps are huge, takes around a 1-2 minutes just walking between the tests. Narration is over the top, explaining everything like you are a toddler, plus robot group calls (lol) that just breaks the pacing sometimes. New puzzle elements are fun. Bridge puzzles on the end of each island feel like a drag and they aren't interesting [i] overall i would rather play the first part because it feels more polished there, this just feels like appeal to the masses: open world for no reason, a lot of rpg dialogue, puzzle drag [/i]

Величайшее разочарование в играх. Малого что игра лагучая(впрочем, скорее всего мой косяк), так еще и обосрали атмосферу первой игры, добавив десяток болванчиков с раздражающими голосами, яркий пример провального ААА сегмента. Хоть головоломки не обосрали, но заценить из-за тупых персонажей я их не смог