SHUTEN ORDER

스토리가 궁금해서 참고 엔딩까지 봤지만 게임이 재미가 없음. 다섯 가지 장르라고 하는데 무엇 하나 잘 만든 것 같지 않음. 그냥 유튜브에 올라온 플레이 영상 볼까 고민하게 만든 최초의 게임. 중간부터는 텍스트만 빠르게 읽고 안 중요한 부분 스킵하면서 한 게 28시간이니까 플탐 대비 가성비 있다는 게 장점일까? 엔딩도 만족스럽지 않고 포기하지 않고 엔딩까지 달린 게 미련하게 느껴진다...

This game is definitely a little rough around the edges sometimes, but if you can manage to get past the occasional lack of polish it's a fantastic story with some great character writing, world building, mystery, art style, and some of the coolest plot twists I've seen in a game so far Cant recommend enough to anyone who is a fan of Kodaka's other work, or someone just looking for a new and creative VN to play

[h1]クリア後レビュー：ゲーム部分の粗さは目立つが、見事な伏線回収と構成力で一気に読ませる傑作ADV[/h1] ゲームシステム面や一部のミニゲームには強い不満が残るものの、複雑な伏線や謎を綺麗に回収していくシナリオの構成力が実に見事な作品でした。ボリュームのあるADVとして、最後まで高い牽引力を保ったまま完結します。 [h2]満足している点[/h2] [b]・美しく、破綻のない全体ストーリーと伏線回収[/b] [spoiler]各ルートをクリアするごとにこの世界の真実が少しずつ紐解かれていき、最終章で今までの伏線や謎が綺麗に回収される構造が非常に美しいです。[/spoiler]かなり複雑な構成で全体のボリュームも膨大ですが、自分が知る限り大きなシナリオの破綻は感じられず、実に見事な構成力だと感服しました。 [b]・屈指の完成度を誇る「科学省ルート」と「保健省ルート」[/b] 特に「科学省ルート」はシナリオが素晴らしく、保健省ルートと1、2を争う出来栄えでした。登場キャラクターも魅力的で熱い展開があり、伏線回収の妙も際立っています。また、ザッピングシステムがADVゲームとして相性が良く、他のルートのようなストレスを感じずに楽しめました。 「保健省ルート」も話の筋が綺麗に通っており、立ち上がりの遅かった序盤を乗り越えた先にある、本作の大きな強みだと感じます。 [b]・個性的で凝ったグラフィック[/b] 漫画的な独特の表現やビビッドな色使い、癖のあるイラストなど、ビジュアル面は終始一貫してクオリティが高く、非常に好印象です。 [b]・声優陣が豪華[/b] 声優に詳しくない自分でも「聞いたことがある」と思えるような、実力のある声優陣のボイスが随所で光っています。 [h2]不満・気になる点[/h2] [b]・蛇足感の強いゲーム性・ミニゲーム類（特に警備省）[/b] 試みとしては面白いものの、ルートごとに挟まるゲーム部分の作り込みは全体的に微妙です。 特に「警備省ルート」で強要されるステルスアクションはお粗末極まりなく、ゲームとして全く面白くありません。難易度が低いためストレス自体は少ないですが、無理にミニゲームをさせる意図は最後まで分かりませんでした。 その他、文部省の爆弾処理（ほぼ形骸化）や、保健省の稚拙なパズル（地味に操作性が悪い）など、これなら余計な要素を挟まずに普通のサウンドノベルとして作ってほしかったです。 [b]・最終章の冗長展開とセーブ制限[/b] [spoiler]最終章の伏線回収は見事ながら、やや展開が読みやすかった（特に黒幕は序盤で気づく人が多いのでは）のが残念でした。また、お互いに奥の手を何度も出し合うような間延びする展開が散見され、キャラクターの活躍の場を設ける意図は分かりますが、もう少しスマートにまとめてほしかったです。 さらに、最終章でセーブができなくなる仕様は不要だと感じました。最後の選択に重みを持たせる意図でしょうが、再プレイにそれなりの時間がかかるため、ただただ面倒さが勝ってしまいます。Steamの実績を見ても、片方のエンディングの回収率がもう片方の半分ほどしかないため、この仕様のせいで両方の結末を見るのを諦めたプレイヤーも多いのではないでしょうか。[/spoiler] [b]・一部ルートのシナリオの賛否（文部省・警備省）[/b] 「文部省ルート」は短い尺で恋愛を描く難しさがあるとはいえ、主人公側にその気がないため描写が破綻気味に感じられ、ルートは変わってもほぼ内容は同じで作業感が強かったです。「警備省ルート」もシナリオ的に読み手に対してフェアではないと感じる表現があり、個人的には微妙でした。 [b]・機能していない探索要素とシステム面の問題[/b] マップ探索シーンは、調べる割に一言二言の薄い内容で終わるため、最後まで探索意欲が湧きませんでした。 また、ユーザビリティも2025年発売のADVとしては不満が残ります。使いづらいバックログ、マウスのみで完結しない操作性、NEW GAME選択時に警告なしでセーブデータが上書きされそうになる仕様など、配慮不足が目立ちます。 [h2]総評[/h2] システム面の不親切さや、各ルートで挟まるミニゲーム類の稚拙さなど、ゲーム部分の粗さは最後まで足を引っ張ります。 しかし、それを補って余りあるほどシナリオの駆動力が素晴らしい作品です。[spoiler]「ルートを重ねるごとに世界の謎が解き明かされ、最終的に美しく収束していく」[/spoiler]という体験は鮮烈で、読み進める手を止めさせないパワーに満ちています。 一部合わないルートやゲーム部分の粗さに目をつむり、純粋にストーリーテリングの妙を楽しみたい人には、自信を持っておすすめできる一本です。

I was a bit nervous about getting this game, initially. It was the translation/localization stuff that made me hesitate, really. However, I am SO glad I decided to go ahead and get it. Hundred Line is my absolute favorite game, so when I learned that this game dove more deeply into the route-based genre shifts, my interest was piqued. The Routes: Gameplay-wise, I had a blast with the routes I wasn't expecting to, and vice versa. My play order was thus: Security, Education, Health, Justice, and Science. After 100% completion, I'm happy with that choice order and I don't think I'd do it differently. I figured I'd like Teko and Inugami the best, so I saved their routes for last. Story-wise, I am so so glad I did. I was expecting the stealth gameplay of the Security route to be annoying and time-consuming, yet it was actually pretty fun. It was fairly simple and straightforward, yet it still had some stakes. The story was good and I felt I got everything out of it that I could/should have. I was nervous about Manji at first, but she grew on me after a while. The Education route was probably the most frustrating, mostly because I wasn't a fan of the characters introduced in this route. The intention seemed to be to exaggerate dating sim tropes, and that's not so much my style. I don't necessarily think it was badly written/executed, but it just wasn't my thing. Honoka also generally just pisses me off, too lol. The Health route was something else. Not at all what I was expecting, but it was still pretty fun. I enjoyed the characters introduced here, and I wish a few of them got just a little more exposition, but I understand why they didn't. Yugen was... also something else. Again, not at ALL what I was expecting out of his character, but not in a bad way. The Justice route was a blast. Inugami is absolutely my second favorite character here and for good reason. He's literally just... a more self-aware, humorous, drug-addled Sherlock-type character. I also have a soft spot for his voice actor (Daisuke Ono, who put on a killer performance), so that contributes. It was also a murder mystery type genre shift, which I also adore. It was executed exceptionally well! I just wish it lasted longer... The Science route, story-wise, was probably my favorite, at least up until [spoiler]Dr. Ezaki[/spoiler] was introduced. I didn't care for that particular character all that much and their story was honestly kind of irritating. The format of this route was fun, but I do have a MAJOR gripe about it. Usually, in multi-route visual novel games, you can just go back and revisit specific parts to get new branches, endings, etc. Not so in this game. Lets say you have a scenario that has 2 potential branches, then each of those 2 branches each have 2 more. In order to get ALL of the corresponding branches, you need to go back to the first scenario that begins that set of branches. That can be irritating, especially when ALL character stories in this route unlock piece by piece as you complete them. It can make it very frustrating, especially if you want to unlock all of the dialogue options (which isn't necessary, I'm just a freak I guess lol). Teko and the overarching story of this route made up for the frustrating parts, I think. I very much enjoyed Teko's character arc and his overall character (design, voice, role in the story, etc.). My only complaint about him as a character is it was kind of upsetting to find out that he didn't play as much of a role in the final chapter as I thought he probably should based on the story beats revealed in the Science route. Final chapter: My biggest gripe for this game lies in this area of the story. Just a warning, when you start this portion, be aware that you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MANUALLY SAVE for the entire thing. It took around 3 hours or so for me to get through this chapter (I didn't skip any dialogue and didn't take any breaks during that time, so it should be fairly representative), so do with that info what you will. If you are seeking completion of both endings, you will need to get through that whole thing again. But, I timed it out while I got the second ending (again, no breaks, but I also skipped all of the dialogue I had gotten through during my first ending) and it took roughly 30-45 min or so. Not bad, but still irritating. I LOATHE backtracking. Endings: I found both endings to be interesting and appropriate in their own right. [spoiler]The droid ending was my first and it felt like the most appropriate choice, given the story and characters. I was a bit annoyed that Rei still decided to go and look for the remaining humans, though. It made sense though for her character, so I wasn't upset, per se. It's just not what I would have done in that scenario. The human ending was actually interesting and nothing like I was expecting. It was sad, but at the same time, uplifting almost? The angels were so frustrating the entire time, and I'm pissed that we let them win with this ending. But at least both were well written, I suppose. Something I didn't care for though was Rei seemingly being in love with Manji. It felt strange because, sure, they met fairly early on, but Rei knew Teko the longest. It would have made more sense for them to have ended up together instead. But I can get why they didn't go that way because Teko looks like a child lol so I can see how that would cause issues. To be honest, the romantic part in general felt a little weird. Having Rei end up not romantically interested anyone and going out to explore with ALL of the ministers makes more sense, in my mind.[/spoiler] Verdict: Shuten Order was a very fun ride. It's definitely not my favorite game, but it's in my top 5 for sure. I do think the game is worth the price tag, but I did get it on sale, so I can't really argue for or against on that point. I did find myself able to accurately predict certain heavy plot points fairly early on, but the way the game was formatted, I didn't feel bored or annoyed by that at all. It just made it even more interesting to see the characters get to those answers themselves. The localization issue that I was worried about didn't seem to be all that much of an issue. I can read something that maybe wasn't localized all that well and be able to put it into my own words, or at least fairly accurately guess where the writing was trying to go. If you have anything roughly above a 12th grade reading level, you can do this too.

能把这游戏玩完的干什么都会成功的

Le concept de base est bon, mais la qualité varie fortement entre les différentes routes, et le jeu est beaucoup trop long pour ce qu'il est.

故事劇情很棒,推薦次序為法務⮕警備⮕教育⮕科學⮕衛生

劇情挺有趣的，一步步解謎這個世界的背景故事 大部分的推理不算難，遊戲過程不太會有卡關的問題 結局我個人覺得還可以，整體而言是佳作 特價時再入手即可

虽然配音和美术画面完成度很高，但是我不会把这个游戏推荐给别人。这款游戏的定位就有很大的问题。五条线五种游戏玩法看起来很有创新，但完全是缝合游戏，作为玩家的体验非常难受。 1. 逻辑推理游戏，如果玩过逆转裁判，弹丸论破或其他推理游戏，这部终天教团的推理部分简单到不行，基本单线贴在玩家脸上的提示，多试几次就通关了，这也造成另一个问题，可玩性不够和业界第一梯队的推理悬疑作品完全没法比，还有游戏中的异议反对找矛盾环节答对了，整体的音乐和表现力与逆转裁判比相当薄弱。 2. 游戏党画面让我想起了p5女神异闻录，但这只是美术的模仿，因为游戏的整体单线叙事，强制玩家选择某个选项才能进入下一个剧情，玩家自由度低，比如地图原本应该给玩家自由选择在里面探索的，剧情强行分割成五条线的副本，游玩体验割裂，游戏玩家完全无法进入玩游戏的心流状态，比如p5女神异闻录能玩上百小时，没有感觉时间流逝，可是这部作品玩到20小时的时候就精疲力竭了，游戏党只想跳过剧情打游戏。 3. 剧情党深恶痛绝的游戏体验，本来就是来看剧情的，作品为了照顾剧情党已经简化了游戏难度，但这还是不够，比如解密游戏里的规定时间拼拼图、在密室里找线索、推理到最后一个个试错，会让剧情党浪费大量时间在某一条线上，从而导致因为手残无法推进剧情的情况。 说到底，游戏创作者缝合小游戏进入剧情不是不行，但是对剧情党想读视觉小说和听声优演出的人群非常不友好，它还不是那种可选玩不玩，而是必须玩才能推剧情的，如果你不是个资深游戏玩家，你可能在推理游戏上做得很好（因为这属于大脑的慢思考），但是在临时qte反应、鬼抓人游戏里总是出错（属于大脑快速思考），又或是反过来，这会极度消耗玩家脑力；又因为是每条线的小游戏，你刚熟悉游戏还没进入心流状态，游戏又戛然而止变成新的游戏规则。消耗最大的还是卫生线的限时拼图，你基本要进入拼图游戏的心流状态才能快速通关，但是它又给你时间限制催促你game over重来，没有奖励机制让着急想通关的剧情玩家抓狂。 4. 恐怖游戏完全不恐怖，但是作者又想加入恐怖解密元素，恐怖游戏玩家玩得不够爽、不玩恐怖游戏的玩家又会被恐怖元素劝退，两边不讨好。鬼抓人3d视角而且人物跑得跟鬼差不多，全程没有压迫感，完全没有利用好3d的优势，你还不如整2d画面给恐怖音效。恋爱游戏？让我想起了之前玩的ddlc（心跳文学社），可是压迫感音乐节奏和人物对话氛围又没到心跳文学社的高度。创作者根本不知道玩家心理想玩什么想看什么。 总结来说，这是一部宣传要素大过实机体验的作品。创作者完全没搞懂自己的产品定位，更像把流行的元素强行拼接然后卖个高的价钱。 但是最后的最后，我还是原谅小高和创作组了，他们只是能力不足，还是为了阿宅打造一款画风和配音精美的游戏，所以我保留好评。