Goetia 2

I really liked the first Goetia, but this sequel is honestly just a mess. Poor writing, obtuse puzzle design and riddled with bugs, some of them gamebreaking, making it possible to get stuck with no way of progress quite a long way into the game. Sad to say this is a waste of time, as I was hoping for something of similar quality as the original game.

O jogo não é tão bom quanto o primeiro Goetia, mas também é bem interessante. Entretanto, dois fatores podem ser impeditivos para você avançar nele: - Nível de Inglês (diálogos e documentos contêm dicas importantes, não é um jogo para ficar pulando textos). - Ações erradas. Na versão atual do jogo, infelizmente ele possui alguns bugs sérios que comprometem a sua continuidade e término (inclusive, um deles pode acontecer minutos antes do final). Você fica perambulando pra lá e pra cá sem conseguir avançar, achando que a culpa é da sua falta de raciocínio, mas na verdade você pode apenas ter realizado uma ação que desencadeou um bug que "quebra" o jogo. Caso isso tenha acontecido com você, procure pelo meu tópico [b]"[Save Game File] Before Ending (in case your game breaks)"[/b] na seção [b]Discussões[/b] do jogo e siga as instruções (em Inglês) para poder terminá-lo.

I finished the game after 25 hours playing it! I needed to replay it almost complete, because found salt before compass and that made me a glitch. Game is beautiful, and I thanks Moeity to correct the bugs. I love the story, but we have a glimpse of it, after you play half of the game. I truly recommend it!

Quite a disappointment after the excellent first game, so don't get this just because you liked that one. Goetia 2 is horrible at communicating what it actually wants and what you can do or where you should go at any given time. The puzzles are strangely as obtuse as they are simple and pretty often don't make a lot of sense or feel like busywork. Haven't had that little fun with a game in quite some time. Even the story is a boring mess and never made me care in the slightest about the two characters I supposedly want to save from their situation. Neither did it get me interested even remotely in what the antagonist (?) was all about.

A very good attempt at recreating the original Goetia. A+ for effort. However, it ultimately just feels like a pale imitation of Goetia 1. It lacks the incredible atmosphere and mystery the first game had. I complained about the super cryptic nature of the original, however this game is too straight forward, especially in comparison. It can be completed using the tried and true point and click strategy of rubbing all items and locations together. It's been awhile but I remember the original game's puzzles being much different and requiring almost superhuman logic (or the use of a guide). And although the obtuse nature of its difficulty was one of its flaws, it was also part of it's charm and personality. In addition, Goetia 2 has this nagging problem that makes it very difficult to click on things while possessing an object. It's as if the object itself covers the area meant to be clicked on, so you have to move away and then move the mouse back to the spot, hoping you click fast enough before the possessed object catches up with the cursor and covers the spot you're trying to click on. A very obnoxious flaw and hard to believe it was overlooked and made it into the final product.

On the surface this game looks very nice, it's pretty and runs smoothly. But it still has multiple game-breaking bugs that have never been fixed. This includes key items necessary for progression completely disappearing. The story isn't terrible although it is a downgrade from the original game. But since there's a possibility of getting stuck and having to completely restart the game (only to encounter the bug again!) I wouldn't recommend purchasing this game until it is fixed.

Beautiful sceneries & sinister moments, loved the atmosphere. Some puzzles were hard for me cuz of the really open nature in the locations, items & puzzles, but manageable still. I was afraid to try it, but lucklily at the moment I haven't found most of the bugs mentioned, maybe thanks to the recent patches & fixes.

Pour le moment je suis très déçue de ne pas pouvoir terminer le jeu. Pourtant je le trouve très plaisant et intéressant , mais ce " gros bug" pour pouvoir faire le " rituel " vers la fin, m'a vraiment très déçu. J'espère que les concepteurs du jeu trouveront un patch ou une MAJ pour améliorer la jouabilité finale. Le " patch" ( sauvegarde) actuel d'un joueur est une solution pour ceux qui aiment " bricoler" , mais la fin n'est pas garantie non plus. J'attends donc une amélioration du jeu actuel pour le refaire. Et j'espère que dans ce cas beaucoup de nouveaux joueurs auront aussi leur plaisir à le faire.

[b]TLDR[/b] A disappointment compared to the previous game in every way. I recommend it for hardcore puzzle enthusiasts but if you, like me, were a fan of the previous game, you'll be disappointed. Unsure how to feel about this game. I felt kinda meh about a lot of it, mainly because it overstays it's welcome quite a bit.Especially the last hour or so of gameplay I was just ready for it to be over and I was trying to get to the ending ASAP. I really enjoyed the previous game, it was hard as balls and there was a lot of backtracking, but a lot of it was fairly intuitive and the game was pretty good at giving you direction in the way the areas became accessible over time. While Goetia 2 does part of this as well, with the new areas that unlock over time, there's a lot of back and forth and there's basically no direction whatsoever on what to do and where to go. While the first game had a fairly good flow, not sure what to call it, Goetia 2 comes to a screeching halt every time you collect a new item for the ritual. Especially the final part of the game, my map bugged out. There's supposed to be question marks to mark all areas you haven't accessed yet, but mine disappeared from my map which caused me to have absolutely no idea where the newly accessible areas were. There were a lot of other bugs too, like puzzles not detecting the correct solution and having to exit out of the game and load back in, in order to complete the puzzle and proceed to the next step. I think the first game was just better in every way, better story, better characters, better direction, better gameplay flow. I wish I could give a neutral review but I can't. I'm also kinda bummed there are no steam achievements for this game, so I can't get that 100% completion. It seems the devs have completely abandoned this game so I doubt they're ever going to add them.

Приобрёл на распродаже со скидкой 90% (почти даром). Игра концептуально практически никак не изменилась в сравнении с первой частью. Так что всем кому понравилась первая часть вторую можно порекомендовать. По сути это та же самая игра с историей других героев в совсем недавнее время (если не путаю 2005 год) со слегка изменённой картинкой (более яркие цвета и качественные текстуры) но при этом местами сама графика выглядит проще. Основная составляющая игры - головоломки в квестовом стиле. Найди записку, вторую, почитай третью, и сопоставь данные что бы сделать выводы, совершить действия, и решить задачу. Сами по себе головоломки кажутся немного проще чем в первой части. Но проблема в том, что решение некоторых головоломок совершенно не очевидно, а у некоторых разбросано по степени прохождения так далеко что с ума можно сойти (нашёл квестовый предмет в начале, а применение ему появляется в конце игры) С учётом неочевидности решения многих задач, а так же с учётом множества записей не имеющих к квестам вообще никакого отношения, это путает. Некоторые головоломки разряда "составь мозаику по описанию" решал методом "тыка". Это получалось быстрее чем сидеть и ломать голову над логикой их решения. В общем не всё хорошо с головоломками в игре. Есть простенькие, решаемые на раз, есть такие что даже после самостоятельного их решения не совсем понимаешь их логику, а есть и такие которые решаешь вообще вслепую или идёшь подглядыать прохождение в интернет. Так же надо учесть, что русского языка в игре по умолчанию нет. Если вы не знаете английский на хорошем уровне, придётся скачивать и устанавливать бесплатный перевод (кстати он очень хорошего качества) от сторонних разработчиков, легко ищется в интернет. Сюжетную составляющую сильно упоминать не буду. Она есть. Хуже, лучше - это личное восприятие каждого. Опять же, учитывайте что концепция игры и тематика не изменились, а придумать что-то "вау" в таких условиях трудно. Персонажи новые, место действия новое, есть некоторые интересные нововведения, но всей картины они не меняют. Есть пересекание с сюжетом первой части в виде упоминания и даже встреч и взаимодействием с персонажами оттуда. Но в целом впечатления слабее чем от первой части, Ведь многие составляющие интриги первой части тут уже не работают. По продолжительности прохождения эта игра заняла у меня примерно на 40% времени меньше чем первая часть (почти в два раза быстрее), но надо учитывать то, что при прохождении первой части я только знакомился с концепцией игры и многого не понимал. Итог: игру можно смело порекомендовать для тех, кто знаком с первой частью, и она им понравилась. Если же вы не знакомы с первой частью - лучше начните знакомство с неё, а потом уже делайте выводы о приобретении Гоэтия 2. Собственно даже полная стоимость игры совсем не велика. А уж тем более если на неё будет скидка.