Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

[code]Honestly, I'm not the target audience. I haven't played a game like this in 20 years so perhaps I expected more in that time. Regardless, I give all games an honest go and really tried to like it but there's a lot I dislike and I'm not really the type to glaze a game just because its popular online.[/code] [h1]Things I Like:[/h1] [b]++ Demonic Pokemon:[/b] Turn-based combat with creature collecting. Pretty much what I wanted it for as I haven't played a Pokemon game in 20 years and demons are neat. [b]++ Some of the demon designs:[/b] Some of them look really cool and come from myths and legends from the whole world, not just Japanese. I liked reading some of their brief lore bios and I was able to recognise a few by name alone. [b]+ Some of the music is good:[/b] I appreciate some of the tunes, specifically the Battle tracks, like 'Qadistu'. [h1]Things I Dislike:[/h1] [b]--- Illusion of Choice:[/b] Replaying some story sections, I've come to find that most dialogue choices dont actually matter. One section I was given the choice between 'Can you explain that?' and 'What do you mean?' and the character responds the exact same way. Like why even give me a choice? This is a waste of time! [b]-- Low Quality:[/b] Sure there's a ton of poke-demons, most you can completely skip over and not all of them are given the same treatment in their level of design as others. Boring fetch quests, poor writing, poorly directed cutscenes that come out awkward, graphics are just ok, fps drops in one of the menus with high end hardware, no VO for creature dialogue and a lot more linear gameplay than I expected. Compared to games of the same year and year past, I can see why this falls super low on the radar of people who aren't tapped into the genre. Also, they're charging £54.99 for this? And there's a paid time saver DLC? Jesus christ. [b]-- Can't customise the main character appearance:[/b] I hate how he looks. I'd prefer to play as a demon. [b]-- Creature collecting isn't really satisfying:[/b] I enjoy the odd quiz now and then, but ultimately, this is kind of a boring and often trivial way to recruit something as interesting as a demonic entity, especially when sometimes they just take some cash and thats it. The fact there's essentially a ladder you can climb by fusing demons skips this whole process for cash too. Getting new characters never feels earned. [b]-- Fantasy JRPG non-sense:[/b] They love to be quirky when naming stuff dont they? It's not 'go the hub, open the shop and manage creatures' it's 'enter the Leyline Crossing, spend Macca at the Cadaver's Hollow and enter the World of Shadows to perform Dyad Fusion'. I still get confused as to what Macca is because even in the shop they dont call it that lol Instead of talking like a drugged homeless person, can we be functional and just say what things are? Surely no one is pining for mumbo-gumbo glupp ♥♥♥♥♥♥ names for things as basic as 'money'. [b]-- Kinda braindead easy:[/b] Can kinda just walk past the mobs as they don't really hold anything of value. Whole game is kinda A vs B. I never really find myself wondering which demon to take, it's always just the strongest ones I have available, especially since they can inherit the same skills and some stats from past demons. The hardest part during my playtime was accidentally walking into something a much higher level than me and having no way out but death, but you can kinda save whenever you want to and ignore those parts. In fact, you could just save before every encounter, dive in to see what their weaknesses/moveset is, then go back to the save and exploit it, which I did a few times. [b]- Can't load/save during a battle:[/b] So if you know you're gonna lose, you either ALT-F4 or just sit there, skipping turns until your HP is 0 and the cutscene plays. [b]- Can't remap controller buttons:[/b] But at least it recognised my PS5 controller and I didn't have to mod in Playstation prompts this game.

Best thing ever

Idun my waif

I love it. You wont regret picking this game up if you like creature capturing and turn based combat. I had to stop playing though because my controller stopped working, and I refuse to play certain games with a mouse and keyboard

i love god and boobs

This is NOT the kind of game I would normally play. However, what sold me was Dunkey playing it live and as soon as I saw, A, how interesting the open-world mechanics were, and B, how flexible the RPG mechanics were given the demon (party member) fusion system, I started watching for a sale. Getting it 50% off, I've gotten more than my money's worth. This is a really, really good game. I will say though, I don't know how any adult with time constraints could play this without the little cheating orbs from the DLC (they give you extra money and level up currency). I guess if you love a slog and/or losing to bosses over and over, then avoid them, but otherwise... the game has these huge difficulty spikes where everything is going well and then a boss will just WIPE you, so I really appreciated being able to dip into this "cheating" currency whenever that happened instead of having to grind random mobs for hours. Back to the postives though... The graphics are good, the demons are incredibly varied and I really love how each of them has lore on the cultural signifcance of them (since these "demons" are basically gods, fairies and so on from around the world. Really interesting idea, I know it's a staple of the series but I'm new to it), and the variety and control you have is truly impressive. Basically imagine any normal RPG where you have party members, except your party members are like pokemon you can catch in the overworld, except your pokemon's "moves" can be swapped out with basically any other pokemon AND you can use one-use items to change their stats (not always but often) so you could, for example, get a demon who is strong with ice and dark, and then make them way stronger in dark, and then give them more dark moves... But also the game has fusion! So every new demon you collect can theoretically create a whole new demon, especially when you have extra money to summon previous ones you've owned just to use as fusion materials. I really, really enjoyed this part of the game more than anything else. The story is... to be honest, the overarching story is actually QUITE interesting, but the beginning trappings of "blah blah high school boy becomes hero" is very tired. I get it though, and it's not in your way for long. There's one too many "forced school day" parts for my taste but you relatively quickly gain the freedom to warp between your world and the actual game world whenever you like and it was only up from there. There's also apparently two whole games in this game? I would recommend looking up the details of the starting choice since you're basically choosing which game to play which is kind of crazy, one day I might go back and play the original story... The character models are absurd. There's a looooot of fan service (although, why censor nude characters? They're clearly nude... regardless...), but also just a tonne of truly fascinating designs, unique interpretations of mythological staples, etc. I'm really impressed with that part of the game. Also the animations during battle are awesome, especially the Almighty moves. This is also probably the best "open world" experience I've ever had with an RPG. The character movement is solid and aside from some bs "what, I can't jump here? I can't climb that little ledge?" moments, it was truly satisfying to explore almost all of the maps, and whenever I got a new area I was so excited to roam around collecting things, getting new demons, etc. Why is my guy so feminine though? Strange that you're locked into playing as a really feminine looking male character in the demon world... but it's fine if you just sort of ignore it I guess. Basically, I thought this was going to be 6/10 for me, and it's more like 9/10. I would heavily recommend it if you like games like this, and heavily reccomend it on sale if you've ever enjoyed a game like Final Fantasy, Pokemon or even a deck-builder since this is kind of all of that in one with a dope open world and a story that gets really deep once you leave high school behind.

Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance is one of my favorite ATLUS JRPGs that I've played so far. Coming from the three mainline Persona games, I was initially intimidated going into this game, on the Hard difficulty no less because I'm always up for a challenge, because of the Nocturne clips I'd always see on YouTube and word of mouth from friends that SMT is a notoriously difficult series. After 160 hours poured into this game, 3 playthroughs and all superbosses defeated, I can confidently state that a majority of these claims are untrue. The game hands you numerous tools to handle each and every situation that you will ever face in this game. A lot of the things I hear about SMT's difficulty typically stems from lack of preparation, misunderstanding of the boss mechanics, and overall a poor performance. Another thing to note is the grind in this game. From my experience in the first playthrough, there was never a moment where I had to mindlessly grind for any longer than 10 minutes, aside from negotiating with demons to save Macca for fusion early on. The game's progression feels smooth and even clearing things while severely underleveled is a possible task assuming you are aware of the boss' shenanigans first. The combat is also very in-depth, and you are able to do as many wild and wacky builds as you can, and still defeat anything that stands before you. I don't need to mention this, but come on, it's an ATLUS game, of course the music will be top notch. As a game as a whole, SMTV:V is an above average JRPG as a game, but it has several weak points to it that hindered my experience. Namely, the poor storyline and lack of character depth. The story fails to make me feel attached enough to care about what happens near the end, and a majority of the main cast aren't even present! This is only true for Canon of Creation, however. Vengeance does improve on this much more and I was hyped to always look forward to what the story had to offer next. Another downside to mention are the two dungeons of this game. This is a nitpick, but by God those dungeons really sucked in both storylines. The Demon King's Castle was way easier compared to Shakan. Regardless, the conclusion is that this game is an amazing timepour and I dread the day where I've completed the game entirely, getting every ending, completing the compendium, getting every achievements, etc. However, that'll be quite a while away. I'm happy to continue playing as is, and I'm hopeful that I can get the same experience I had here in Shin Megami Tensei VI, too. Thank you Shin Megami Tensei: Vengeance, for never taking advantage of my innate gullibility.

[quote=author] [b] Diğer oyunlar ile ilgili incelemelerim; https://store.steampowered.com/curator/37884261 [/b] [/quote] [h1] Kıssadan Hisse [/h1] Atlus'un felsefi serisi Shin Megami Tensei, yine diyalogları ile parlamayı başarıyor. [h1] Hikaye & Oynanış [/h1] Shin Megami Tensei V, sıradan bir lise öğrencisinin bir anda kıyamet sonrası Tokyo'ya sürüklenmesiyle başlıyor. Burada Nahobino isimli güçlü bir varlığa dönüşüyor ve melekler, iblisler ile tanrıların savaşının tam ortasında kalıyoruz. Klasik bir dünyayı kurtarma mücadelesi, güzel diyaloglar, felsefi çatışmalar üzerinden işleniyor. Seçimler oyunun gidişatını etkiliyor. Ayrıca Vengeance versiyonunda ana oyunun hikayesi ek yepyeni bir hikaye modu da mevcut. Oyunun başında yaptığınız seçime göre ya asıl hikayeyi, ya da yeni vengeance hikayesini deneyimleyebiliyorsunuz. Bildiğiniz gibi Atlus'un bu serisinin olayı demonlar ile konuşmak ve onları saflarımıza katarak güçlenme döngüsü üzerine kurulu. Atlus'un yine diyalog yazımı konusunda oldukça iyi bir iş çıkarmış.Demonlarla yapılan konuşmalar müthiş keyifli. Ekibimize katmak istediğimiz demonun ruh haline göre cevap vermeli, sizden para, sağlık, mana, eşya vs istediğinde vermeli, ters gitmemelisiniz. Bu şekilde safınıza katmayı başarabiliyorsunuz. Oyunda yüzlerce demon olmasıan rağmen bu farklı diyaloglar ile demonları farklı hissettirmeyi başarmışlar. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3765417999 Savaş sistemi ise klasik zayıflık üzerine kurulu sıra tabanlı sistem. Persona oyunlarının aksine burada okul hayatı, link sistemi vs olmadığı için asıl detay savaş sisteminde ve personadan daha detaylı bir sistem mevcut. Düşmanın zayıflığını bulmak müthiş önemli aksi halde bazı savaşlar imkansız olabilir. Sıra tabanlıu sistemde her zayıf noktaya vuruşunuz size bir saldırı şansı daha verirken, düşmanın güçlü olduğu elementi vurmak ya da saldırıyı ıskalamak bir saldırı hakkınızı fazladan götürüyor. Bu nedenle bu sistemi öğrenmek zorundasınız. Büyük boss savaşları öncesinde doğru demonları yanınıza almak ve sürekli takımınızı geliştirmek büyük önem taşıyor. Demon fusion sistemi yani iki demonu birleştirerek başka bir demon yaratma sistemi derin ve saatlerce yeni kombinasyonlar denemek mümkün. Demon Fusion harici, demon özlerini kullanarak karakterinizinde yeteneklerini ve zayıf güçlü yönlerini sürekli değiştirebiliyorsunuz. Zorlandığınız boss savaşlarında bossun güçlü zayıf yönlerini, saldırılarını öğrenip, önceki save inizi açıp ana karakterinizi bossa özel ayarlamak kritik bir taktik. Save demişken oyun hiçbir şekilde auto save almıyor bu nedenle 3-4 daha çok geriden tekrar başladım, sık sık save almayı unutmayın. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3765418509 Oyunda random encounter olmaması çok iyi. Yani siz yarı açık dünya haritasında gezerken bi anda savaşa girmiyorsunuz, tüm düşmanlar görülebilir ve istediğinizde savaşa girebilirsiniz. Ancak savaşa girmeden hikayede ilerleyim demekte pek mümkün değil, oyun hikayedeki boss savaşları öncesi çıtır grind yapıp level ve demon kasmanızı gerektiriyor. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3765418379 Ayrıca oyunda Türkçe altyazı mevcut ve oldukça iyi çevrilmiş. Demonların sohbetleri Türkçe ayrı bir keyifli oluyor. Ancak herşeye rağmen, sanırım ben Personaları daha çok seviyorum. Bunda ana odağın savaş sistemi olması, bikaç ara sahne harici sadece savaşlara kafa yormak bi noktadan sonra sıkabiliyor. Persona serisindeki o hayat simulasyonu tadı, okul işleri, arkadaşlık ilişkileri vs oyunu taze tutabiliyorken burda tam klasik japon kafası sadece savaşlara kafa yorduğunuz bir oynanış mevcut. [h1] Görsellik & Oyun Süresi [/h1] Demon tasarımları her zamanki müthiş. Tek tek inceleyesiniz geliyor. Müzikler ise atmosferi inanılmaz destekliyor ve özellikle boss savaşlarında oldukça başarılı işler çıkarıyor. Ana hikaye yaklaşık 40-50 saat sürüyor. Tüm yan içerikler ve güçlü demonlar toplandığında 80 saatin üzerine rahatlıkla çıkabiliyor. [url=https://steamcommunity.com/id/Kaldorein/screenshots/?appid=1875830&sort=newestfirst&browsefilter=myfiles&view=imagewall] Ekran görüntüleri için burdan. [/url] [h1] Artılar [/h1] [list] [*] Muhteşem demon tasarımları [*] Her demonun kendine has kişiliği ve diyalogları [*] Kaliteli hikaye ve felsefi anlatım [*] Harika müzikler [*] Çok detaylı ve tatmin edici savaş sistemi [*] Derin demon fusion sistemi [*] Türkçe desteği [/list] [h1] Eksiler [/h1] [list] [*] Klasik Japon RPG yapısı herkese hitap etmeyebilir [*] Yer yer ciddi grind gerektiriyor [*] Bazı boss savaşlarının zorluğu fazla gelebiliyor [*] Hikayeyi önemsemeyen oyuncuları bi noktadan sonra sıkabilir [/list] [h1] PUAN: 80 / 100[/h1] [h1] Kapanış [/h1] Felsefi hikayesi, unutulmaz demon tasarımları, müzikleri ve derin savaş sistemiyle türün kaliteli örneklerinden biri. Grind yapısı ve yüksek zorluğu nedeniyle herkese hitap etmese de JRPG sevenlerin kesinlikle deneyimlemesi gereken yapımlardan. İyi oyunlar!